[The initial purpose of the talks with Russia ,
Mr. Kerry said in London , will be
to help “define some of the different options that are available to us as we
consider next steps in Syria .”]
By Michael R. Gordon
Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in
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“The
president believes that a mil-to-mil conversation is an important next step,”
Mr. Kerry said, “and I think, hopefully, will take place very shortly.”
Shortly
after Mr. Kerry spoke, the Pentagon announced that Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter
had spoken by telephone with Sergei K. Shoigu, the Russian minister of defense.
It was Mr. Carter’s first discussion with his Russian counterpart since he
became defense secretary seven months ago. The two men agreed to continue
discussions on “mechanisms for deconfliction” in Syria , Peter Cook, the Pentagon press secretary, said
in a statement.
Mr.
Cook described the discussion as “constructive” and said the two men had
“talked about areas where the United States and Russia ’s perspectives overlap, and areas of
divergence.”
The
initial purpose of the talks with Russia , Mr. Kerry said in London , will be to help “define some of the
different options that are available to us as we consider next steps in Syria .”
Mr.
Kerry said that the Obama administration would not change its basic goals in Syria : the defeat of the Islamic State, also known
as ISIS or ISIL , and a political solution for the conflict
there.
But
though the administration has long said that President Bashar al-Assad must go
for there to be a durable solution to the Syria crisis, Mr. Kerry seemed on Friday to allow
for the possibility that Mr. Assad might remain in power in the short term. Mr.
Assad has had Russia ’s backing throughout the conflict.
“Our
focus remains on destroying ISIL
and also on a political settlement with respect to Syria , which we believe cannot be achieved with
the long-term presence of Assad,” Mr. Kerry said. “But we’re looking for ways
in which to try to find a common ground. Clearly, if you’re going to have a
political settlement, which we’ve always argued is the best and only way to
resolve Syria , you need to have conversations with people,
and you need to find a common ground.”
Mr.
Kerry made his remarks in London at the start of a meeting with Abdullah bin Zayed, the foreign
minister of the United Arab Emirates . Mr. Kerry also plans to meet on Saturday
with the British foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, and then will travel to Germany on Sunday for discussions focused mainly on
the Syria crisis and the refugee situation in Europe .
On
Sept. 5, Mr. Kerry warned Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, that
the Kremlin should not expand its military support for the Syrian government. The
Russian buildup, Mr. Kerry said in a telephone conversation with Mr. Lavrov, “could
further escalate the conflict” and might even “risk confrontation” with the
American-led coalition that is conducting airstrikes against the Islamic State
in Syria , according to a State Department account of
the call.
The
United
States
also sought to impede the Russian buildup. Bulgaria closed its airspace to Russian transport
planes at the request of the United States . Iraq , however, did not take any action, which has
allowed the Russians to keep delivering weapons and equipment to Syria .
In
Moscow , the foreign ministry said it had always
welcomed discussions with Washington about Syria . “We have never refused dialogue with the U.S. , and we remain open to one now on all issues
of mutual interest, including Syria ,” Maria Zakharova, the ministry spokeswoman,
told the state-run RIA Novosti agency.
A
spokesman for the Russian defense ministry, Igor Konashenkov, confirmed the
conversation between Mr. Carter and Mr. Shoigu, and said it signaled the
resumption of military-to-military contacts that were broken off when Russia annexed Crimea in March 2014.
The
Syrian foreign minister, Walid al-Moallem, denied in an interview on Syrian
state television Friday that any Russian troops in Syria were involved in combat, but he held out the
possibility that his government might ask the Russians for such help in the
future. He maintained that the Syrian Army was capable of defending the country,
though he said that Russia had “stepped up the pace” of deliveries of
weapons and ammunition that the army needs.
Asked
about Mr. Moallem’s remarks, Dmitri Peskov, the spokesman for President
Vladimir V. Putin, told reporters in Moscow that if the Syrian government asked Russia to send combat troops, the request would be
“discussed and considered.”
In
the meantime, some experts said military-to-military talks between Washington and Moscow could be useful in minimizing the risk of
inadvertent confrontations in Syria between the Russian forces there and the
American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State. But some observers also
expressed skepticism that such discussions could evolve into more far-reaching
cooperation to end the conflict.
“Given
coalition operations in Syria , deconfliction is necessary,” said Andrew J.
Tabler, an expert on Syria at the Washington Institute for Near East
Policy. “But the fact is, the positions of both Moscow and Washington ’s proxies are worsening. The Russians are
going into Syria because the regime’s position in the north
is deteriorating, not improving.”
“Washington is unable to recruit and train a viable
opposition to fight the Islamic State because it has been unwilling to commit
to a military strategy that would combat ISIS and also remove Assad from power,” Mr. Tabler
added. “Given the chasm between Moscow and Washington on the viability of Assad’s dwindling forces
and rigid political positions, it’s hard to see how you turn convergence on
tactical military issues into a collective and viable political strategy to
stabilize Syria and end the war.”
Eric
Schmitt contributed reporting from Washington, and Neil MacFarquhar from Moscow .